Yeah. They were both like moms to me. A more crazy sense in Dadan's case, though.

[And he climbs on.] Makino would take us shopping for clothes, come and hang out with us, all that stuff. Dadan... gave us a place to call home. Even if it was ideal, it was nice having people to come home to. People to nag at you for taking forever to get dinner, coming home after getting into a lot of trouble... they were both great.